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Political Pop-ups, and Follow the Money
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Posted by michael on Mon Mar 29, '04 06:07 AM
from the spend-a-buck-or-two dept.
finelinebob writes "Now we know why Bush wants broadband for everyone: The Republican National Committee plans on bringing the campaign to Internet pop-up ads. From the article: 'Internet experts said that Republicans have entered a new realm of campaigning. Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long, and little data exist to suggest how voters might respond to uninvited interruptions.' Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers now!" While you're waiting for your first pop-up, pop on over to a website that tracks campaign contributions: vVF4N writes "Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information. The Washington Post (registration required) has more. Find out who your friends and neighbors are contributing to."

 

 
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Pop ups (Score:5, Insightful)
by krymsin01 (700838) <`pemdasi' `at' `cox.net'> on Monday March 29, @06:10AM (#8701487)
(http://members.cox.net/pemdasi | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~krymsin01/journal/)
So instead of using the Internet to rally and energize the American public into voting for them, they are going to use it to furthor alienate and annoy us with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe pop-ups are actualy going to give them some sort of edge?
Re:Pop ups (Score:4, Interesting)
by TomV (138637) on Monday March 29, @06:56AM (#8701674)
or: As well as using the internet to rally and energise the American Public into voting for them, they are going to use it to further alienate and annoy everyone outside the US without a vote in the US elections with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe these pop-ups are actually going to be limited to US voters only?
Seriously.... (Score:3, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, @08:23AM (#8701954)
you think either the Republicans or Democrats are that concerned about where the money comes from.

Now that's optimistic! If you've got a prostitution ring in Thailand that specializes in the anal rape of baby monk seals, you just have to launder the money before you buy the politician.

Randomly enough. They admit this is an experiment and they don't know what they're doing, but they've got, and I shit you not, so much money, that it makes it a perfect time to run the experiment. That's their actual, said it to the camera, position. It doesn't matter how much they piss people off, they've got enough extra money to fix it.

But I'd check the outrage if I were a European. The Republicans couldn't by a better publicist than the EU. Remember, if you look like you hate America, anything that pisses you off looks like a good idea. If you want Ohio and it's electoral votes to go to the red team in November, keep it up.
Re:Pop ups (Score:4, Interesting)
by blazerw11 (68928) <.blazerw. .at. .bigfoot.com.> on Monday March 29, @10:26AM (#8702645)
(http://www.1702.org/)
Republicans don't care about people outside the U.S. Have you not been paying attention?! :)

The above was meant to be humorous toward the parent poster and a slight slam against our conservative leadership, which, if I may make an intelligent argument here, suck.

Re:Conspiracy? (Score:2)
by cayenne8 (626475) on Monday March 29, @02:40PM (#8705765)
(http://www.outpimp.com/?x=57020)
Hmm....so THAT's why the Bush people let MS off so easily, they wanted to keep people using IE...so, that people could not easily block their pop-up ads...

Yeah...it all makes sense now...

See, a good Slashdot article..conspiracy, bashing MS, and a shot at the Republicans...

:-)

Re:Pop ups (Score:3, Interesting)
by Cally (10873) on Monday March 29, @08:08AM (#8701884)
(http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/)
I'm really looking forward to the first one of these I see, when I shall send a lengthy email of complaint about how I'm unable to vote in the election, not being American. Hopefully that'll suck up a few minutes of time of some campaign worker and help drain away the Bush funds. Just doin' my bit...
Re:Pop ups (Score:2, Insightful)
by WindowlessView (703773) on Monday March 29, @10:00AM (#8702445)

-->Hopefully that'll suck up a few minutes of time of some campaign worker

It will suck up the .003 seconds of computer time that it takes to strip your info off the email header, send out a form letter, and put you in a database so you can be harassed by American politicians until the end of time.

Re:Pop ups (Score:1, Troll)
by Cally (10873) on Monday March 29, @11:19AM (#8703239)
(http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/)
OK, I'm game - we'll see who can waste more of who's time. Hint: there are five and half billion-odd of us and only 250-something million of you. Why should my valuable time be consumed by fuckheaded US politicos that personally I'd be happy to see burnt at the stake?
Re:Pop ups (Score:2)
by Rick Zeman (15628) on Monday March 29, @01:14PM (#8704584)
OK, I'm game - we'll see who can waste more of who's time. Hint: there are five and half billion-odd of us and only 250-something million of you. Why should my valuable time be consumed by fuckheaded US politicos that personally I'd be happy to see burnt at the stake?

Fine--the solution then is to stay away from any fuckheaded US web sites, right?
Re:Pop ups (Score:1)
by mcocke (710952) <cocke@catherders.com> on Monday March 29, @08:14AM (#8701911)
(http://www.catherders.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~mcocke/journal/)
Anyone not using privoxy, mozilla, or similar to filter pop-up/unders get what they deserve. If you don't vote, you don't get to complain. Vote "NO" to pop-ups/unders!
Vote Republican (Score:5, Funny)
by Rogerborg (306625) on Monday March 29, @08:18AM (#8701927)
(http://slashdot.org/)
If you want us to stop.
Just hope they don't do it in Switzerland, too... (Score:5, Interesting)
by DrYak (748999) on Monday March 29, @08:54AM (#8702062)
Alienating the Americans ? How about alienating the Swiss ?
Each couple of month, in Switzerland we're supposed to vote about a dozen of laws, laws change and other subjects.
Just imagine the desktop mess if swiss politician start to make pop-up like the american : not just two pop-ups for two candidate, but dozens of pop-ups about pro and cons for each subjet.
Now THAT'S going to make a big wreckage on the desktop ! I think people will start to hate democracy... or make Mozilla the official nationnal browser for it's ad-blocking...
Re:Just hope they don't do it in Switzerland, too. (Score:2)
by WindBourne (631190) on Monday March 29, @09:55AM (#8702396)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~WindBourne/journal/)
But on the plus side, this may actually help spread laws and ideas. While I will almost certainly dispise the american politicians that do this, I will probably read the swiss stuff and think about it. Well, probably only for the first time.
Swiss law is open-source, kind-of... (Score:2, Interesting)
by DrYak (748999) on Monday March 29, @10:32AM (#8702702)

I will probably read the swiss stuff and think about it

In a way swiss law are open source : at least the voting document always come with the exact text of the law you're going to vote for.
Same can't be said about amercan politicians

Re:Swiss law is open-source, kind-of... (Score:1)
by Steveftoth (78419) on Monday March 29, @02:19PM (#8705412)
(http://slashdot.org/)
They send the laws that you are voting on to you in the mail before hand. At least if you are a registered voter.

They don't give you a copy when you vote that's true.

How many people would read them anyways? Why don't we require there to be television shows that just state the actual text of the laws instead of having people talk about their opinions?
Re:Just hope they don't do it in Switzerland, too. (Score:2)
by k98sven (324383) on Monday March 29, @04:35PM (#8707152)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~k98sven/journal/)
Hey! Some of us do try to follow the Swiss referendums.

How did that one on the carrier-pigeons back in 1996 end?

I kind of forgot to follow-up that one.

They are sponsoring pop-up for their *opponents*! (Score:3, Funny)
by ArsenneLupin (766289) on Monday March 29, @09:17AM (#8702159)
they are going to use it to furthor alienate and annoy us with pop-ups?

That's the point. They are sending pop-ups for their opponents, stupid!

Re:They are sponsoring pop-up for their *opponents (Score:1)
by InvaderSkooge (615857) on Monday March 29, @06:42PM (#8708492)
(http://www.livejournal.com/~notapipe | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~InvaderSkooge/journal/)
A new, low-cost internet version of the 4 AM robocalling of New Hampshire voters supposedly by the Dean campaign [dailykos.com]?
Re:Pop ups (Score:2)
by stry_cat (558859) on Monday March 29, @09:31AM (#8702229)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~stry_cat/journal/)
If popups didn't work they wouldn't be used.

While they'll alinate the /. group the average AOLuser is going to say "Oh they care enough about me to advertise here, I love Dubbya. I will vote for him so he and and his big government socalist friends can keep me safe from those nasty slashdotter terrorists"

Re:Pop ups (Score:2)
by Joey7F (307495) on Monday March 29, @06:27PM (#8708345)
(http://compustore.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Joey7F/journal/)
Dubbya has "big government socialist friends"?

--Joye
Re:Pop ups (Score:1)
by True Grit (739797) <[moc.poptoh] [ta] [nrubgocde]> on Tuesday March 30, @04:28AM (#8712053)
Sure, they aren't the same as the Democrat's "big socialist friends", but they like to spend our money just the same, only on different things.
It Gets Better (Score:1)
by John Blake (766336) on Monday March 29, @09:44AM (#8702301)
Oh Yes of course, Once they get "Everyone" Internet then they will be able to "control" the internet.
Re:Pop ups (Score:2)
by DaedalusLogic (449896) on Monday March 29, @01:13PM (#8704572)
I don't think this is as bad as bloodforoil.org sending me spam. Which I have gotten numerous e-mails from today. Pop ups, while a bad marketing decision are paid for placement advertising. They're probably on sights like foxnews.com that has a conservative audience that will repsond to them. Blood for Oil is indescriminately spewing out full color images that fill the screen of most viewers when opened. I personally believe their political views are misguided, and now know their technology use is even more misguided.
Yay! (Score:5, Funny)
by ColourlessGreenIdeas (711076) on Monday March 29, @06:10AM (#8701488)
An oppertunity for the republicans to annoy everyone. That's what I like to see.
Re:Yay! (Score:2)
by Jeremiah Cornelius (137) on Monday March 29, @06:22AM (#8701532)
(http://www.memepool.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Jeremiah%20Cornelius/journal/)
Spammers for Bush! Surefire way to become as populatr with the public as, say, X-10!
California's Bill Jones Spammed last time (Score:5, Informative)
by billstewart (78916) on Monday March 29, @06:55AM (#8701670)
(http://idiom.com/~wcs | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~billstewart/journal/)
Bill Jones [jonesforcalifornia.com] is a California Republican who's running for Senate this year against Barbara Boxer. Back in 2002, when he was Secretary of State and trying to get the Republican nomination to run for governor (Bill Simon beat him, and lost to Gray Davis, who was later recalled and replaced by Ahnold), his campaign sent out a bunch of email spam, and got spanked by the net.

So here in California, the Republicans already have lots of practice annoying Internet users. Let's hope they keep it up!

Re:Yay! (Score:2)
by robbyjo (315601) on Monday March 29, @06:22AM (#8701533)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~robbyjo/journal/)

Well, let's wait a while... if it makes them unpopular, they'll stop it for sure. They can't afford losing their supporters. I guess they're just experimenting on a new idea, just like sending spam is. I personally never received their spam yet, but some people actually welcomed it. Unsure about the pop-up ads though.

*groan! (Score:4, Funny)
by manavendra (688020) <manavendrak&hotmail,com> on Monday March 29, @06:12AM (#8701494)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~manavendra/journal/)
As if pr0n pop-ups werent enough, we'll now have Dubya and others popping up and asking to vote for them.
Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content" :-)
Republican Popups Taking Over Your Screen (Score:5, Funny)
by billstewart (78916) on Monday March 29, @06:45AM (#8701627)
(http://idiom.com/~wcs | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~billstewart/journal/)
Single popups are bad enough, but just wait until the Republicans try those rapid-fire take-over-your-screen can't-hit-the-X-fast-enough popups. "Terrorists might be hiding under your bed!" "Democrats are Liberal Liberal Liberal!" "Weapons of Mass Destruction!" "Our Enemies are EEEEVILLLLL!" "Yellow Alert No, Orange Alert! No, Yellow Alert!" "Pink Alert - Gay People Might Destroy Your Marriage Unless You let Us Repeal The Constitution!" "Don't Vote Democrat or Terrorists Will Squish This Hamster!" "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!" "Don't Worry, Republicans Will Protect You!" "Pay No Attention to the Web Bug Behind This Window!" "CLick the Dancing Osama To Fight Terrorism!" "Click the Dancing Osama to Vote Republican!" "If you Don't see the Fnords, they won't eat you!" "Homeland Security works if We All Cooperate!"
Re:Republican Popups Taking Over Your Screen (Score:1, Troll)
by b-baggins (610215) on Monday March 29, @11:30AM (#8703378)
And then a bomb goes off and kills 200 people on a train in Madrid and people realize just what an ass folks like you really are.
repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @12:18PM (#8703945)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
And then someone uses the word "folks" to mean "enemies" and people realize that you're a Republican repeatatron. When al Qaeda bombs a capital, and that government hijacks the backlash to attack a preferred enemy instead, Spanish folks take back their government to ensure security. In November, American folks will do the same.
Re:repeatatron (Score:1)
by Ktulu_03 (668300) on Monday March 29, @12:41PM (#8704227)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Ktulu_03/journal/)
Yes, because the terrorists are really going to stop bombing attacks because President Bush is out of office. yep. that makes sense.

Wake up people. The terrorists are against western civilization, and they aren't going to stop just because we elect some peacenik president.
Re:repeatatron (Score:3, Insightful)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @12:53PM (#8704351)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
Al Qaeda will be stopped more effectively when the President is focused on them, uninhibited by Saudi sponsors, and sensible enough not to kick the hornets nest for his hidden agenda. If you think that Kerry, a Silver Star winning Vietnam vet, is a "peacenik", then you understand war, and peace, as poorly as you understand terrorism. Ask a frontline veteran sometime about peace - that'll wake you up.
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by b-baggins (610215) on Monday March 29, @02:33PM (#8705652)
Appeasers feed the crocodile, hoping he will eat them last.

--
Winston Churchill
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @02:41PM (#8705781)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
Republicans fed Saddam. Fed bin Laden. Feed Bush at your peril. Who exactly is being appeased, by whom?
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Monday March 29, @07:49PM (#8709151)

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats (Clinton) fed Saddam nor bin Laden in order to appease them. Whatever their reasons were, appeasement was not one of them. So your counterargument is wrong and without merit.

Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Monday March 29, @03:10PM (#8706164)
that government hijacks the backlash to attack a preferred enemy instead

Aznar did not do that. With what little was known then, ETA may well have been behind the attack. He promised a thorough investigation. Contrast that with Putin's reaction to explosions in Moscow subway: "We know, it is the Chechens," -- he said -- "There is nothing to investigate." He got 72% of the vote soon afterwards...

Spanish folks take back their government to ensure security.

The reaction of Spanish electorate to the carefully timed attack in Madrid has reminded the world, how dangerous the "government by referendum" is. Without the "checks and balances" of some sort, a democracy is just as prone to the irrational greed, stupidity, cowardice, and other human flaws as, say, a monarchy.

The first well known example of this is Socrate's conviction in the democratic Athens...

In November, American folks will do the same.

I just hope, Al'Qaeda will not succeed in bombing US right before the elections, the way they succeeded in Madrid...

Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @03:36PM (#8706504)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
Your unabashed hatred of democracy invalidates your attempts to compare naive Russians with sophisticated Spaniards in their exercise of their democratic rights. And stop calling Americans "folks" - we know you warmongers use it as a term of contempt. Like when BushCo manufactures another terrorist event, by refocusing on some other neocon agenda instead, and try whip the American electorate into a mad frenzy to attack "the folks whut did it". I can only hope Americans are as perceptive as the Spanish, rather than the Russians, although you apparently do not.
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Monday March 29, @07:44PM (#8709104)

Wow! What energy! I can just see your saliva hitting your monitor...

I don't "hate" democracy -- I merely suggested, it needs "the checks and balances," as, for example, the US model provided since US' very inception.

And I never called Americans "folks" (not that there is anything wrong with it, IMO) -- your vision must be impaired -- pull whatever it is out and relax. "Mad as hell" has been out of fashion for well over a month now :-)

And when you cool down a little (assuming it happens within a few days), please, describe a single terrorist event, that did not really happen, but was "manufactured by BushCo". Put up, or shut up?

Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @08:17PM (#8709392)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
As we find out for certain every time a Bush veteran finds their conscience in this Republican utopia, the WTC/Pentagon planebombings were manufactured by deprioritizing al Qaeda despite the utmost warnings from experts, inside and outside both the previous and current administrations. That's no accident - that's willful ignorance, to reap the sick harvest of the "Pearl Harbor event" desired in published blueprints from the Project for a New American Century. If that doesn't make you mad, I suppose it's explained by a corollary to "there's none so blind as those who will not see": there's none so numb as those who will not feel. I guess that's the only way to remain partisan in face of the mountain of evidence of BushCo evildoing, but you're serving a thankless master at the expense of your country, and your own personal safety.
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday March 29, @11:55PM (#8710795)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
Blame Canada for their leftwing conspiracy theories about PNAC blueprints for a "new Pearl Harbor" [www.cbc.ca].

BTW, Lieberman's a "Democrat" just to the left of Zell(out) Miller. It is sad that the country has come to that.
Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Tuesday March 30, @08:58AM (#8712801)

WTC/Pentagon planebombing happened 9 months after Bush took office, after 8 years of Clinton's presidency. From what we already know about this attack, preparing it took much longer than 9 month.

You accused "BushCo" of manufacturing the attacks. I asked for evidence, and this is all you can come up with? The "mountain of evidence" is in your mind only, once you try to convey it, it turns into a mole-hill. One can hardly get more partisan than you, that's for sure...

Re:repeatatron (Score:2)
by Doc Ruby (173196) on Monday April 05, @04:29AM (#8767070)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal/)
I cited the PNAC blueprint. But I guessed right about your willful blindness - you'll never read it, or admit it steers our country, and our world, into the inferno.

What a week for the power of the truth - your boys (and the occasional girl, like Rice) are sinking fast, with Clarke's book a mountain the size of the Titanic's iceberg. Any rebuttal to the man set by Rice and Bush as crisis manager when the planebombs finally hit? I am party to truth, justice, and the American Way of liberty - and a registered voter with party affiliation of "none of your business". You rightwingers goosestep to the BushCo rhumba, chanting "partisan" whenever your agenda is threatened, even by Republican insiders like Clarke, O'Neil, Lindsey, Whitman, and everyone else with a shred of dignity fleeing your sinking ship before it drowns us all.
Re:Republican Popups Taking Over Your Screen (Score:2)
by RobinH (124750) on Monday March 29, @11:23PM (#8710602)
(http://slashdot.org/)
And then a bomb goes off and kills 200 people on a train in Madrid and people realize just what an ass folks like you really are.

Buddy, you're an American and a republican... as if you know where Madrid is!
you CAN hit the X fast enough (Score:2)
by SanityInAnarchy (655584) on Monday March 29, @03:34PM (#8706471)
Aside from popup-blocking browsers, the thing to realize is that most often, they won't open 15 million popups, they'll open one or two for every one that you close.

This is just the last time I checked, of course. Now I use firefox on Linux, so I have no real knowledge of viruses or popups -- I just don't get them.
more *groan! (Score:5, Funny)
by spellraiser (764337) on Monday March 29, @07:04AM (#8701693)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~spellraiser/journal/)

Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long ... ???

They've been around TOO long. More specifically, they have been around, period.

Could be worse (Score:1)
by Phekko (619272) on Monday March 29, @07:08AM (#8701707)
Imagine a NUDE Dubya pop-up ;)
Re:Could be worse (Score:1)
by manavendra (688020) <manavendrak&hotmail,com> on Monday March 29, @07:26AM (#8701757)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~manavendra/journal/)
Oh hell no! that would be laughing matter! :-
Re:Could be worse (Score:2)
by csteinle (68146) on Monday March 29, @08:16AM (#8701920)
(http://www.death-star.blueyonder.co.uk/)
I thought I couldn't, but now I have. And it's your fault. I'm going to hunt you down and make you pay for making me come up with that image.
Re:*groan! (Score:3, Funny)
by WWWWolf (2428) <wwwwolf@iki.fi> on Monday March 29, @07:29AM (#8701768)
(http://www.iki.fi/wwwwolf/)
Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content" :-)

According to some porn filters [dansdata.com], yes, pictures of GWB are vile pornography. =)

Re:*groan! (Score:2)
by Lumpy (12016) on Monday March 29, @09:15AM (#8702153)
(http://www.your-website-sucks.com/)
Although last election I found these test pop-up's quite entertaining...

Gore Vs Bush [jibjab.com]
Re:*groan! (Score:1)
by CreatureComfort (741652) * on Monday March 29, @12:35PM (#8704166)

Worse yet... a Bush (as in President) pop-up appearing right next to a bush (as in sexy teen virgins) pop-up from the same website. Seeing those two pictures side by side could give you definate sexual dysfunction.

Oh bloody hell (Score:5, Funny)
by NemesisStar (619232) on Monday March 29, @06:13AM (#8701496)
If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.

I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:4, Interesting)
by meringuoid (568297) on Monday March 29, @06:16AM (#8701507)
Well, the annoying thing is... whoever wins this election will be deciding what my country's foreign policy is going to be. Yet I don't get a vote in it. Isn't it great living in a vassal state?

And now, just to rub it in, they're going to pop up their campaign ads at me. Brilliant.

Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2, Insightful)
by Trailwalker (648636) on Monday March 29, @06:37AM (#8701595)
..living in a vassal state?


Don't get too excited by this, we have fifty of them here.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
by SillyNickName4me (760022) on Monday March 29, @07:31AM (#8701773)
(http://www.bartsplace.net/)
> Don't get too excited by this, we have fifty of them here.

Except for the fact that the peopel livign in those 50 can still vote.. not that it really makes a difference this time.. (hmm. come to think of it, it didn't matter much last time either)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
by ross.w (87751) <wonderleys AT spin DOT net DOT au> on Monday March 29, @11:53PM (#8710786)
(http://rossw.freeshell.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~ross.w/journal/)
Unless you live in FLorida, and your name is Chad... Wasn't that how it went?
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by sanctimonius hypocrt (235536) on Monday March 29, @08:56AM (#8702071)
(http://harrist.freeshell.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~sanctimonius%20hypocrt/journal/)

Yet I don't get a vote in it. Isn't it great living in a vassal state?

Next you`ll be griping about taxation without representation.

If you don`t like how the government in Brussels treats you, get out.


Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:3, Informative)
by kiwimate (458274) on Monday March 29, @10:40AM (#8702765)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~kiwimate/journal/)
Next you`ll be griping about taxation without representation.

What, you mean like Washington D.C.? From the pages of the first site [dcvote.org] that popped up when I googled:

District of Columbia citizens have no representation of any kind in the US Senate and only a nonvoting delegate to the US House of Representatives. US citizens who live in Washington, DC, have no voting representation on the national issues considered by Congress. Furthermore, since Congress also acts as Washington's "state" legislature, local citizens are also denied voting representation in a state legislative body-something that all other Americans enjoy.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
by mgs1000 (583340) on Monday March 29, @10:56AM (#8702964)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~mgs1000/journal/)
Not that anybody actually wants to live in D.C. anyway...
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by sanctimonius hypocrt (235536) on Monday March 29, @11:42AM (#8703529)
(http://harrist.freeshell.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~sanctimonius%20hypocrt/journal/)

...taxation without representation.

What, you mean like Washington D.C.?

Yes, entirely like that. If the people of D.C. want greater voting rights, let them fight and take them, not whine to be given them.

If the people of Europe want to control their own destiny, let them establish, maintain, and pay a military force that will allow that.

What I`m unwilling to do is maintain an army and allow someone else to dictate its use.


Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by highwindarea (732127) on Monday March 29, @09:19AM (#8702169)
The worst part is I've read your comment several times and still can't guess what country you're from.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
by surprise_audit (575743) on Monday March 29, @11:19AM (#8703238)
Oh bloody hell

That's mostly a British expression, but of course it would have spread over most of the inhabitable planet (and Canada) back in the days of the British Empire, so I can see your problem... :)

Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Aneurysm9 (723000) on Monday March 29, @06:34AM (#8701580)
you mean you wouldn't rather have a 5'+ dick?
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Sj0 (472011) on Monday March 29, @07:07AM (#8701704)
(http://powerusr.sphosting.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Sj0/journal/)
Or a +5 longsword of babemagnitism? ;)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by Nighttime (231023) on Monday March 29, @06:34AM (#8701581)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Nighttime/journal/)
If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.

Seems that they don't realise that the first two double-ewes stand for world-wide. Is there any way that the web server can tell which country the request is coming from and not display the ad?
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:3, Informative)
by Dave2 Wickham (600202) * <dave@allaboutgames.co.uk> on Monday March 29, @06:56AM (#8701672)
(http://www.allaboutgames.co.uk/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Dave2%20Wickham/journal/)
Many ad companies already do use location targetted ads - I often see Sainsbury's, Switch etc ads on US sites. Of course this isn't 100% foolproof, but it did even work with my old (pre-RIPE) IP.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2, Informative)
by Matthias Wiesmann (221411) on Monday March 29, @07:36AM (#8701786)
(http://lsewww.epfl.ch/wiesmann/)
Many ad companies already do use location targetted ads - I often see Sainsbury's, Switch etc ads on US sites. Of course this isn't 100% foolproof, but it did even work with my old (pre-RIPE) IP.
In my experience this is quite random. In my case (I'm Swiss), I get quite a variety of adds, beside the one for the US, I get some for France and some for Germany, nothing for Italy yet (Italian is the third langage spoken in Switzerland). At least I seem not to get proposals to move my money to a Swiss bank account anymore...

I suspect the system used to select adds is quite primitive, and I'm simply too strange a case to get tailored adds.

Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:2)
by DunbarTheInept (764) on Monday March 29, @03:53PM (#8706699)
(http://slashdot.org/)
The problem is that the U.S. doesn't have it's own top level domain that gets used much. You see lots of sites ending in .uk, or .fr, or .au, and so on, but not a whole lot ending in .us - instead the US sites just use the main original heirarchy of .com, .org, .net, .edu, and so on - which unfortunately a lot of other countries also use. There is no guarantee that a non-usa site will end in a country TLD, and so no guarantee that a .com or .org address is or is not in the US.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by Andux (260446) <andux AT bigfoot DOT com> on Monday March 29, @05:27PM (#8707750)
(http://meepo.dnsalias.org/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Andux/journal/)
No problem. Just look up the IP on ARIN [arin.net]. If they tell you to look it up on RIPE/APNIC/whoever, it's from overseas; otherwise, it's generally from the US.
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:5, Funny)
by Surlyboi (96917) on Monday March 29, @07:04AM (#8701695)
(http://surlyboi.net/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Surlyboi/journal/)
You're in luck then, because if you vote Bush, you get Dick for free!
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by WyldDot (726567) on Monday March 29, @08:13AM (#8701905)
how about a 12" pop-up? :)
Re:Oh bloody hell (Score:1)
by Rick Zeman (15628) on Monday March 29, @01:17PM (#8704625)
If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.

I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!


Ouch.
NO DIFF (Score:1)
by quarkscat (697644) on Monday March 29, @01:38PM (#8704868)
It has become increasingly evident that there
needs to be either (1) restrictions on the
issuing of Viagra (et.al.) to politicians,
or (2) a combined FDA/Nat. Academy of Science
study on the impact of loss of blood flow
on the mental facilities (and party agenda).
(double entendre intended)

Ques) At what point during Senator Dole's
presidential campaign against Bill Clinton
in 1992 did he effectively lose interest?
Ans) When he got his 1st Viagra prescription
(ed. note: Dole later became the USA poster
  child for "Viagra For Politicians")

Ques) At what point did Alan Greenspan (Fed.
Reserve) lose his financial acumen?
Ans) When he married a babe 40 years his junior,
and needed that Viagra prescription.

A proper formal investigation may well determine
that it is not in America's best interests for
ANY politician to make new laws in any period
less that 72 hours AFTER taking Viagra.
Re:NO DIFF (Score:1)
by jnicholson (733344) on Monday March 29, @11:51PM (#8710770)
(http://www.tvondvd.net/)
A proper formal investigation may well determine that it is not in America's best interests for ANY politician to make new laws in any period less that 72 hours AFTER taking Viagra.
I can just see the warning label...

WARNING: As long as you are feeling drowsy or dizzy, do not drive, use machines, pass laws, or do anything else that could be dangerous if you are dizzy or are not alert.

MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2, Interesting)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, @06:16AM (#8701508)
The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).

Freeware. http://www.myie2.com
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:1, Informative)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29, @06:21AM (#8701529)
Alternatively, you could just download the Google toolbar... No popups in IE... Sorted.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:4, Insightful)
by linuxci (3530) on Monday March 29, @06:25AM (#8701539)
(http://www.mozilla.org/)
Why would you want to do that when you can get the cross platform Firefox that doesn't have the inbuilt holes that anything that embeds IE has.

Also IMO Firefox has a nicer interface.

Note: MyIE2 does also support the Gecko engine in recent versions but enabling it isn't obvious and there's a few bugs in the integration.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:1)
by AndrewHowe (60826) <andrew&confounding-factor,com> on Monday March 29, @06:33AM (#8701577)
(http://www.confounding-factor.com/)
I downloaded Firefox, hmm it was OK, not too bad looking and the type-ahead find was cute.
Unfortunately, when I tried to download new themes I found out that it's buggy. If you try to download more than one thing, it says it's finished as soon as you click on the second thing. Then after a while it crashes.
Not my idea of a "nicer interface"...
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:4, Informative)
by SenseiLeNoir (699164) on Monday March 29, @07:30AM (#8701770)
yes its a bug... but then again, FireFox is not YET v1.0

If you download an extension/theme, you have to immeadiately restart the browser to clear the install queue.

Otherwise when you download the next one, you will get *TWO" restart messages (and increasing each time)

This bug WILL be fixed by 1.0, and is hardly what you call serious, and better by far than IE, which requires to you restart the system at times.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2, Informative)
by Lehk228 (705449) on Monday March 29, @08:35AM (#8702001)
That wasn't FUD, I USED IE and it actually did behave that way at times (Having IE explode and take down the 9x kernel was always fun, especially when doing homework/essays) fortunately the NT/2k/XP kernel is significantly better armored than the 9x kernel but IE does still Explode sometimes and when it does it has a habit of leaving messy pieces all over.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
by SillyNickName4me (760022) on Monday March 29, @07:42AM (#8701796)
(http://www.bartsplace.net/)
Hmm, interesting... you'd think that bug would be easy to reproduce.. yet its not, at least not on the firefox I'm usign here..
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
by SillyNickName4me (760022) on Monday March 29, @07:55AM (#8701846)
(http://www.bartsplace.net/)
I'm not implying you are lying, I am implying that it is a bug that should not be hard to spot, and it surprises me. Bugs in OSS software are entirely possible ;)

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:3, Informative)
by Slack3r78 (596506) on Monday March 29, @06:30AM (#8701564)
(http://www.chaotic-design.com/)
It's probably worth noting that IE will do popup blocking itself beginning with SP2. Microsoft has already released SP2 RC1 [microsoft.com] for public download, for those of you that like to live on the edge. In addition, it upgrades the Windows Firewall to what I think of as a ZoneAlarm lite, which isn't half bad considering it's a freebie for windows users.

I'll personally stick to Firefox, but in the few days I've been running the SP2 RC1 on my windows box, I have to say I'm impressed, and it's a step in the right direction.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:5, Insightful)
by mandalayx (674042) * <burma@@@berkeley...edu> on Monday March 29, @06:36AM (#8701591)
(http://www.ralphlee.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~mandalayx/journal/)
The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).


You do realize, right, that the point of using Mozilla Firefox is not just popup blocking. In fact, it's going to be hard to market Firefox on the aspect of pop-up blocking when you have options like you mentioned and the Google toolbar.

For me, the point of using Firefox is having a browser that I don't need to worry about. When I use IE, I'm not sure whether the next link will take me to an exploit. Or some annoying script. I don't really have that worry with Firefox....not yet..
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
by Sj0 (472011) on Monday March 29, @07:11AM (#8701713)
(http://powerusr.sphosting.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Sj0/journal/)
You people are funny. Probably because you use gator. ^ ^
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:2)
by Sj0 (472011) on Monday March 29, @07:49AM (#8701817)
(http://powerusr.sphosting.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~Sj0/journal/)
Slashdot is such a happy place. ^ ^
block ads with a hosts file (Score:3, Informative)
by gad_zuki! (70830) on Monday March 29, @06:58AM (#8701678)
(http://everythingisnt.com/ | Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~gad_zuki!/journal/)
Very, very simple to do [everythingisnt.com] and if you must use IE, just get the google toolbar for pop-up blocking.
Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (Score:3, Informative)
by Lumpy (12016) on Monday March 29, @09:19AM (#8702174)
(http://www.your-website-sucks.com/)
Internet junkbuster does this also for EVERY COMPUTER IN YOUR HOUSE or office. even better if you have a linux machine available.. use privoxy [sourceforge.net]

easier, faster and you can issue rules to all broswers instantly
Let Me Guess... (Score:3, Funny)
by illuminata (668963) on Monday March 29, @06:19AM (#8701519)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~illuminata/journal/)
Soon, we'll find that John F. Kerry tries to counter this with 30 second flash intros. Listen to that thumping techno beat and kick ass effects!

Oh, what about Nader, you ask? He won't use computers. Apparently they pollute or something. He wants monitors banned because of their adverse health effects, too. But, his rumbling will be heard across the world anyways, so don't you worry!
DMCA (Score:4, Insightful)
by epcraig (102626) on Monday March 29, @07:17AM (#8701731)
Vote for Kerry, vote for the DMCA.

Vote for Bush, vote for the DMCA.

Nader ran against the DMCA in 2000, I can't see why he'd change his mind in 2004.

Kucinich, too, ran against the DMCA. Pity nobody cared.

Re:DMCA (Score:2)
by droleary (47999) on Monday March 29, @08:10AM (#8701892)
(http://www.subsume.com/employees/droleary/index.html)

. . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . . DMCA . . .

The only thing worse than the two-party system is all the one-issue voters.

Re:DMCA (Score:2, Interesting)
by epcraig (102626) on Monday March 29, @08:29AM (#8701981)
USA-PATRIOT, war on Iraq, DMCA is just my longest standing grudge against the Demoblicans and Republicrats...

After all, only a conspiracy theorist would point to Skull and Bones. ;-)

Re:DMCA (Score:2)
by That's Unpossible! (722232) * on Monday March 29, @09:50AM (#8702359)
If you want real freedom, vote Libertarian.

But with freedom comes responsibility. This land of children living off the nanny state cannot handle that, I am sad to say.
Re:DMCA (Score:2, Funny)
by OMEGA Power (651936) on Monday March 29, @03:19PM (#8706278)
(Last Journal: http://slashdot.org/~OMEGA%20Power/journal/)
Vote for Nader, Get Bush!

Much as I dislike Kerry's positions on a number of issues (including the DMCA and Globalization) he is far, far, far better than Bush. Since Nader has no chance in hell of being elected it is important to vote for Kerry (even if you don't like everything he says) in order to keep Bush from winning.

In 2000 a lot of people (myself included) voted for Nader because they opposed Gore's right-of-center positions on many issues and the result has been record deficits, prepetual war, general outrage from the international comunity and the gradual roll back of our civil liberties and constiutional rights.

Recent polls predict that Nader will get far less than the number of votes needed to get federal matching funds for the Green Party and that "his 2004 candidacy a much greater threat to the Democratic Party's candidate than to George W. Bush" (Source: The Gallup Organization [gallup.com], Summary, subscription required to view full article.) So don't kid yourself a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush and the last thing we (the people of the US) need is four more years of King George II.

ReDefeat Bush in 2004! Vote John Kerry for President [johnkerry.com]
Re:DMCA (Score:2, Insightful)
by comedian23 (730042) on Monday March 29, @07:22PM (#8708917)
Your post is the reason our democracy doesn't work. If you vote for Nader enough and the Democrats loose enough times they will finally catch on and attempt to realign themselves with their alienated voters. But if you vote for them they are going to keep putting up degenerates like Kerry over and over again. And they are going to assume you like his politics since you voted for him.

Take a long view on this, not a short view. Your vote is the only thing that matters to your party. Don't give it to them if they don't give you something you want(like a candidate worth voting for).

Of course, I don't think the majority of Dem's want Kerry to win anyway. He strikes me as a candidate set up to fail miserably, to allow for a Hillary run in '08, but that is just my opinion.

-Comedian
Take me to your lizard. (Score:2)
by I am Jack's username (528712) on Tuesday March 30, @05:52AM (#8712270)
(http://jack.p5.org.uk/index.en.html)
> So don't kid yourself a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush and the last thing we (the people of the US) need is four more years of King George II. -- OMEGA Power (651936)

Douglas Adams, writing in "So long, and thanks for all the fish", chapter 36:

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No", said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd", said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did", said Ford. "It is."